"The current Kremlin leadership is deeply anti-American," he told me.
"For the last eight years they have been able to hide that fact by pretending it is really George W Bush that they did not like.
"Now they have to face an American president who is genuinely popular around the world.
"He terrifies them," he said, "and they still haven't figured out what they are going to do."
Rupert Wingfield Hayes in BBC 4
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